Taken aback by what was said here. The Kapernick issue is a human issue - sticking up for other human beings who have it worse than him - and to spin it any other way, especially the way the host did in this episode, truly blows my mind. Support for that particular cause is not divided among racial lines. Hashem yirachem.
Thank you for providing those links! Each of them covers the same story: “I know my parents loved me, but there were still very problematic things that I went through,” the 35-year-old said. Ok, can we honestly say there's a single person who can't relate to that statement?
In his case, his parents said his cornrows made him look like a 'little thug' - well, i was also called names by my parents and rebbeim at times, not due to cornrows of course ;) and I would not say any of them were untainted by racist views either, not could I say that about myself, sadly.
The irony of using the argument that even if 'we' adopt one of 'them' they'll never truly be one of 'us' while trying to downplay the pervasive racism that Kaepernick is protesting is rather astounding. Good Shabbos!
The critique of Kapernick is his assertions that our society and his parents are inherently racist and implying the pain and damage he suffered as an adoptee.
Hashem Yerachem is correct-I in no way condone the police actions in the George Floyd case or others like it- I was merely saying that Kapernick's personal story is becoming a model for discouraging these adoptions-which has brought so much positive new chances to children -many of whom excelled-like Kapernick due to that home environment. Hashem Yerachem on those children born to unwed mothers in homes -where the clear statistics show-the probabilities for crime involvement and violence are quite high.
Shavua tov! Thank you for the replies. One, I would take issue with the term inherently racist, as one may assume it means racism is white peoples' nature - and that is obviously wrong. But racism *has* been nurtured in American society (and others...) and it will continue to be so until education and awareness break the cycle. I am also not aware that Kaepernick's personal story is becoming a model for discouraging 'these adoptions' outside of the program I recently listened to.
(My two cents: I feel the past few episodes have been much more of a constructive dialogue with a lot of common ground, and less of an argument. I like it a lot more.)
No easy answers here, but thanks for raising awareness. Any data/anecdotes from Orthodox Jewish transracial adoptees on their experiences?
ReplyDeleteRabbi Zylberman from the Beis Din has noted that in recent years, it's fewer adoptions and a lot more reproductive-technology questions.
The gut-punch in *The Bamboo Cradle* is where she wrote "found GOY written on my desk. Again."
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ReplyDeleteTaken aback by what was said here. The Kapernick issue is a human issue - sticking up for other human beings who have it worse than him - and to spin it any other way, especially the way the host did in this episode, truly blows my mind. Support for that particular cause is not divided among racial lines. Hashem yirachem.
ReplyDeleteObviously I agree with you. But the host asked me to share these links with you, which I do, not having looked at them myself:
Deletehttps://www.cnn.com/2023/03/10/sport/colin-kaepernick-adoptive-parents-spt-intl
https://nypost.com/2023/04/03/colin-kaepernick-had-trouble-calling-out-problematic-white-parents/
Thank you for providing those links!
DeleteEach of them covers the same story:
“I know my parents loved me, but there were still very problematic things that I went through,” the 35-year-old said.
Ok, can we honestly say there's a single person who can't relate to that statement?
In his case, his parents said his cornrows made him look like a 'little thug' - well, i was also called names by my parents and rebbeim at times, not due to cornrows of course ;) and I would not say any of them were untainted by racist views either, not could I say that about myself, sadly.
The irony of using the argument that even if 'we' adopt one of 'them' they'll never truly be one of 'us' while trying to downplay the pervasive racism that Kaepernick is protesting is rather astounding.
Good Shabbos!
Reb Avramel writes:
DeleteThe critique of Kapernick is his assertions that our society and his parents are inherently racist and implying the pain and damage he suffered as an adoptee.
Hashem Yerachem is correct-I in no way condone the police actions in the George Floyd case or others like it-
I was merely saying that Kapernick's personal story is becoming a model for discouraging these adoptions-which has brought so much positive new chances to children -many of whom excelled-like Kapernick due to that home environment.
Hashem Yerachem on those children born to unwed mothers in homes -where the clear statistics show-the probabilities for crime involvement and violence are quite high.
Shavua tov! Thank you for the replies.
DeleteOne, I would take issue with the term inherently racist, as one may assume it means racism is white peoples' nature - and that is obviously wrong. But racism *has* been nurtured in American society (and others...) and it will continue to be so until education and awareness break the cycle. I am also not aware that Kaepernick's personal story is becoming a model for discouraging 'these adoptions' outside of the program I recently listened to.
(My two cents: I feel the past few episodes have been much more of a constructive dialogue with a lot of common ground, and less of an argument. I like it a lot more.)
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