A relatively new sefer, Shalmei Moed, a collection of RSZA's writings and statements on the various Yomim Tovim cites RSZA from Sefer Erev Pesach she'chal b'Shabbos 21:5:
And in terms of seudah shelishis on Erev Pesach when it occurs on Shabbos, since it is permitted to eat crushed matzo [meal] that has been cooked or fried, it is also permitted to eat cake baked from crushed mazto meal that does not have tzuras ha'pas [the form of bread]. I believe it must be stressed that baked cake, even if it is mostly oil, eggs and sugar and only partly flour, is nevertheless not the same as cooked crushed matzo [kneidlach], for the cake has the definition of pas ha'ba'ah b'kisanin, so that if one is koveia seudah upon it, washing, HaMotzi and Birkas HaMazon are required.
In the Yalkut Yosef, I do not have it here now to cite chapter and verse, ROY notes that even those who have the minhag not to eat gebrokts on Pesach may eat gebrokts on Erev Pesach.
Kneidlach don't require washing? Isn't there a Chasam Sofer who says they do unless you break them into little pieces?
ReplyDeleteWhat is Shmini shel Pesach? Isn't it called acharon shel pesach?
ReplyDeleteKneidlach only require washing if they have pirurim greater than the size of a kezayis (not very prevalent).
ReplyDeleteI think the Shemini shel Pesach is the Acharon shel Pesach... Is there a kepeidah?
ReplyDeleteBTW, very interesting, in the Yechaveh Daas's (#91) discussion of EP she'chal b'S he suggests that the Maharach Ohr Zarua's chiddush [the basis of the Brisker chumrah not to eat cake and cookies on Shabbos unless one has washed] that just as Shabbos is koveia l'maasros it is also koveia l'inyan keviyas seudah of hamotzi, can be employed as a snif on this Shabbos to say that the berachah on what is normally mezonos can be on EPsbS hamotzi (ROY says this is especially true on this Shabbos, as regular hamotzi is not available).
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