Sunday, April 22, 2007

Nachum Ish Gamzu

In Chagigah we find:

תלמוד בבלי מסכת חגיגה דף יב/א שאל רבי ישמעאל את רבי עקיבא כשהיו מהלכין בדרך אמר ליה אתה ששימשת את נחום איש גם זו עשרים ושתים שנה שהיה דורש כל אתין שבתורה את השמים ואת הארץ מה היה דורש בהן אמר ליה אילו נאמר שמים וארץ הייתי אומר שמים שמו של הקדוש ברוך הוא עכשיו שנאמר את השמים ואת הארץ שמים שמים ממש ארץ ארץ ממש

sounds like there is room to say that there is an essential link between darshening "es" and being NIGZ.


  1. Oh, nachum ish gam zu - okay, I get it. Certainly if everything is good, everything has a reason, no.

  2. I am missining somthing can you explain

  3. Rabbi Bech will correct me if I'm wrong, but he is asking that from the fact that the gemara is stressing -all of sudden specifically in terms of darshaning "es"- that learning under nachum ish gam zu for 22 years is responsible for Rabbi Akiva being able to explain one of Nachum Ish Gam Zu's explanations b/c he darshaned every "es" in the Torah must perforce teach us that NIGZ must be some type of paradigm for darshaning "es".
    And I offered the simple observation that a person who sees that everything is good, realizes that everything has a reason (that's the main explanation of the perspective behind seeing even the bad as good, especially in the classic NIGZ story); and thus there must be a reason behind every "es" as well. Moreover, a person who sees the good in everything, sees that everything is connected - and the "es" are connectors throughout the Torah.


  4. learning under nachum ish gam zu for 22 years ,Rabbi Akiva was a gilgul of yackov who worked for his wife 22 years and did not learn so now the price was paid and the word yackov is in the name Akiva