http://www.kayj.org/nusachproject.html
The list of tefillos is below.
See also their "cornerstone" page.
http://www.kayj.org/cornerstone.html
Note that RSRH is conspicuously absent.
To my mind, a yekkishe shul without TIDE or at least some variant of German-Jewishness is no different than a Yemenite shul. An interesting phenomenon of Judaic exotica.
K'hal Adas Yeshurun
Ramot, Jerusalem
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Bircas haMazon
Shir haMaalos bShuv Hashem
Sefiras haOmer Period
Bircas haMazon: Shir haMaalos bShuv Hashem, Sefiras haOmer Period
Shabbos
Kabbolos Shabbos
Lecha Dodi
Regular Shabbos
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Japhet (2)
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Japhet (8)
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Lewandowski (Kol Rina uTefila #5)
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Lewandowski (Kol Rina uTefila #7)
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Lewandowski (Toda uZimra #9)
Sefiras haOmer Period
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Sefiras haOmer Period
Bein haMetzarim
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Bein haMetzarim, Japhet
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Bein haMetzarim, Netherlands, Heymann
Shabbos Chazon
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Lecha Dodi, Shabbos Chazon
Mizmor Shir lYom haShabbos
Shabbos Chazon
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Mizmor Shir lYom haShabbos, Shabbos Chazon, according to Lecha Dodi, Shabbos Chazon, Japhet
Tzaddik Katamar
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Tzaddik Katamar
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Tzaddik Katamar, Japhet
Lewandowski
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Tzaddik Katamar, Lewandowski, melody (soprano)
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Tzaddik Katamar, Lewandowski, harmony (alto)
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Tzaddik Katamar, Lewandowski, harmony (tenor)
Hashem Malach Geius Lavaish
Shabbos: Kabbolos Shabbos: Hashem Malach Geius Lavaish, Lewandowski
Arvis
Borchu
Regular Shabbos
Shabbos: Arvis: Borchu, Lewandowski
Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah
Shabbos: Arvis: Borchu, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah
Shema and its Berachos
1st Beracha
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 1st Beracha End
2nd Beracha
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 2nd Beracha End
3rd Beracha
Regular Shabbos
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 3rd Beracha End
Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 3rd Beracha End, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah, Japhet
4th Beracha
Regular Shabbos
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 4th Beracha Middle and End
Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 4th Beracha: Middle, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah, Lewandowski, single voice; End, Regular
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 4th Beracha: Middle, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah, Lewandowski, composite voice; End, Regular
Shabbos Chanukah
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 4th Beracha: Middle, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah, Lewandowski, single voice; End, Shabbos Chanukah
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 4th Beracha: Middle, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah, Lewandowski, composite voice; End, Shabbos Chanukah
Shabbos Parshiyos Shekalim and HaChodesh
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 4th Beracha: Middle, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah, Lewandowski, single voice; End, Shabbos Parshiyos Shekalim and HaChodesh
Shabbos: Arvis: Shema 4th Beracha: Middle, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah, Lewandowski, composite voice; End, Shabbos Parshiyos Shekalim and HaChodesh
Veshamru
Regular Shabbos
Shabbos: Arvis: Veshamru, France
Shabbos: Arvis: Veshamru, Lewandowski
Shabbos: Arvis: Veshamru, Netherlands, Naumbourg
Shabbos Chanukah
Shabbos: Arvis: Veshamru: until before Ki Sheishes, Dunajewsky; from Ki Sheishes, Shabbos Chanukah
Shabbos Parshiyos Shekalim and HaChodesh
Shabbos: Arvis: Veshamru: until before Beini, K'hal Adath Jeshurun New York; from Beini, Shabbos Parshiyos Shekalim and HaChodesh
Half Kaddish
Regular Shabbos
Shabbos: Arvis: Half Kaddish
Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah
Shabbos: Arvis: Half Kaddish: from Yisborach, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah
Shabbos Chanukah
Shabbos: Arvis: Half Kaddish: until before Yhei Shmei, Shabbos Chanukah; from Yisborach, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah
Shabbos Parshiyos Shekalim and HaChodesh
Shabbos: Arvis: Half Kaddish: until before Yhei Shmei, Shabbos Parshiyos Shekalim and HaChodesh; from Yisborach, Shabbos with Two Sifrei Torah
Shabbos Nachamu through Shabbos Shuva
Shabbos: Arvis: Half Kaddish: from Yisborach, Shabbos Nachamu through Shabbos Shuva
Vaychulu
Shabbos: Arvis: Vaychulu
Beracha Me'ein Sheva
Baruch
Shabbos: Arvis: Beracha Me'ein Sheva: Baruch
Magein Avos
Shabbos: Arvis: Beracha Me'ein Sheva: Magein Avos
Shabbos: Arvis: Beracha Me'ein Sheva: Magein Avos, Frankfurt
Shabbos: Arvis: Beracha Me'ein Sheva: Magein Avos, Netherlands
Retzei
Shabbos: Arvis: Beracha Me'ein Sheva: Retzei
Kaddish Tiskabal
Shabbos: Arvis: Kaddish Tiskabal
Shabbos: Arvis: Kaddish Tiskabal: from Oseh Sholom, Alternate
Shacharis
Amidah
Amidah, Shabbos, Shacharis, Winter, Kohanim:: Lewandowski (Kedusha: Nekadeish; Az bKol; miMkomcha)
1st & 2nd Berachos
Amidah: Avos; Gevuros, Winter:: Shabbos: Shacharis; Musaf
1st Beracha
Amidah: Avos:: Shabbos: Shacharis; Musaf
2nd Beracha
Winter
Amidah: Gevuros, Winter:: Shabbos: Shacharis; Musaf
Summer
Amidah: Gevuros, Summer:: Shabbos: Shacharis; Musaf
Kedushah & 3rd Beracha
Amidah: Kedushah, Shabbos, Shacharis:: Lewandowski (Nekadeish; Az bKol; miMkomcha)
Nekadeish & Az bKol
Amidah: Kedushah: Nekadeish; Az bKol:: Shabbos:: Lewandowski
miMkomcha
Amidah: Kedushah: miMkomcha:: Shabbos:: Lewandowski
Amidah: Kedushah: miMkomcha:: Shabbos:: Frankfurt
Amidah: Kedushah: miMkomcha:: Shabbos:: Netherlands: Schlesinger
lDor vaDor
Amidah: Kedushah: lDor vaDor:: Shabbos: Shacharis; Musaf
4th Beracha
Amidah: Kedushas haYom, Shabbos, Shacharis
Yismach Moshe; Veshamru Vnei Yisrael; vLo Nesato
Amidah: Kedushas haYom: Yismach Moshe; Veshamru Vnei Yisroel; vLo Nesato
Elokeinu vEilokei Avoseinu Retzei viMnuchoseinu
Elokeinu vEilokei Avoseinu Retzei viMnuchoseinu, Shabbos:: Amidah: Shacharis; Musaf
5th–7th Berachos
Amidah: Avodah; Hodaah; Bircas Kohanim, Kohanim; Sholom:: Shabbos
5th Beracha
Amidah: Avodah:: Shabbos: Shacharis; Musaf
6th Beracha
Amidah: Hodaah:: Shabbos: Shacharis; Musaf
Bircas Kohanim
Kohanim
Amidah: Bircas Kohanim, Kohanim:: Shabbos
No Kohanim
Amidah: Bircas Kohanim, No Kohanim:: Shabbos
7th Beracha
Amidah: Sholom, Sim Sholom:: Shabbos: Shacharis; Musaf
Motzaei Shabbos
Arvis
Shir HaMa'alos Ashrei Kol
Motzaei Shabbos: Arvis: Shir HaMa'alos Ashrei Kol, Japhet
Simchas Torah
Kaddish Tiskabal, Simchas Torah: Arvis, Shacharis, and Musaf
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What is it with the Yekis and there obssesivness with their mesorah?(not to be disrespectfull but it is a bit extreme in this single community)
ReplyDeleteGuf bli neshomo...
ReplyDeleteBTW, I fixed the post.
ReplyDeleteeveryone should be obsessed with their mesora
ReplyDelete"To my mind, a yekkishe shul without TIDE or at least some variant of German-Jewishness is no different than a Yemenite shul. An interesting phenomenon of Judaic exotica."
ReplyDelete1) Why don't the minhogim and nusach tunes qualify as "some variant of German-Jewishness" in your eyes ?
2) "is no different than a Yemenite shul"
Would you not be upset if no Yemenite Shuls (R"L) were around anymore ?
The Yemenite mesorah is very old and choshuv, as is the Yekke one.
So what's the problem ?
3) Re Rav Hirsch zt"l -
a) He is mentioned, on the cornerstone page, app. 45% down.
Rav Hirsch is a choshuv and prominent aspect of the Yekke legacy, but not the totality of it. The frum kehillos of Ashkenaz for centuries before him made great contributions, as did others during his time as after.
I think that to reduce the Yekke derech and legacy to Rav Hirsch and TIDE is problematic. Not all gedolei Ashkenaz agreed with him, such as the Wurzburger Rav.
כּבודו בּמקומו מונח, but not every Yekke kehilloh must be an exact copy of his, would you not agree ?
1. I do not see it as a derech in Avodas Hashem.
ReplyDelete2. The unique derech of Yemenite Jewry in Avodas Hashem is all but snuffed out. The shuls (like the Yekkishe ones) are relics.
3. a) I apologize!
b)RSRH was only the redactor of TIDE. It was the quintessence of German Jewry. The Wuerzburger Rav's issue with RSRH really concerned communal unity, not TIDE.
c) Of course not every Yekkishe kehillo need be an exact copy of his, but then don't take up the name of KAJ!
1) " I do not see it as a derech in Avodas Hashem."
ReplyDeleteWhy not ? Minhogim don't reflect the shitos and Torah worldview of an edah ? They are just unimportant small details to you ? I think they are more significant than that.
Remember, Yaakov Ovinu went back to get 'pachim ketanim'. Sometimes the small things are important.
They can also be viewed as spices that impart important flavor to a Torah lifestyle.
2) "The unique derech of Yemenite Jewry in Avodas Hashem is all but snuffed out. The shuls (like the Yekkishe ones) are relics."
It might be greatly diminished, but at least a small zeicher remains with/in the Shul. The Shul contributes greatly to keeping it alive, even if in a greatly weakened state. Would you like that to disappear too (R"L) ?
3) "RSRH was only the redactor of TIDE. It was the quintessence of German Jewry."
Care to elaborate ?
And what does TIDE mean ? That every Yekke must have a PhD as some think ?
4) "The Wuerzburger Rav's issue with RSRH really concerned communal unity, not TIDE."
Okay, maybe that wasn't a good example.
5) " Of course not every Yekkishe kehillo need be an exact copy of his, but then don't take up the name of KAJ!"
a) Kehal Adas Yeshurun and Adas Yeshurun are names used by many Shuls over the years, especially, but not exclusively, Yekke ones. Was RSRH's Shul the first one to use that name so that every Shul doing so afterward should have to be an exact copy of it? I doubt it.
b) Some of the people in that Shul practice TIDE I believe. If they don't shout it from the rooftops are they considered as imposters ?
6) Re "Guf bli neshomo... " -
that can be the case at times, but is it necessarily so all the time ? Anyone who is a stickler for minhogim is in that category ? What about Chassidim who are very dedicated to their minhogim ? Would you make a similar broad generalization or putdown about them ?
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous 1 & 8 (which seem to be the same person) -
ReplyDeleteRe comment # 1
"What is it with the Yekis and there obssesivness with their mesorah?(not to be disrespectfull but it is a bit extreme in this single community) "
a) Halevai they should all be as connected as you seem to think. The fact is that this is only one Shul. Most Yekkes daven these days in non-Yekke Shuls, by far, AFAIK.
b) Would you make the same comment about Chassidim who are very דבוק in their minhogim ?
Re comment # 8 -
a) Are you allowed to use the term Yekkes in that way, negatively stereotyping an entire community ?
b) "weirdness with the made up minhag"
1) I find it amusing that you label it 'weird', but then go right on to compare it to a venerable minhog from ancient times. How can you refer to a minhog from the great and heilig מהרי"ל, who is a yesod of מנהגי אשכנז (not only for Yekkes) that way ?
2) Re 'made up minhag' - Aren't all minhogim 'made up' at some time ? You want to be מלגלג on all מנהגי ישראל ? I would counsel caution and respect instead, I don't think that's a good road to travel.
My wording was completley innapropriate I admit, but still the fact that the Yekis themselves have no mekor for it seems strange ,the chassidim have a tammaie minhagim that has reasonings for everything and I know you have equivlants but this one minhag without a reason is just strange to me and again I ask For Mechila on the wording i would ask acctualy that it be taken down sorry.
ReplyDeleteAs per your request, I deleted the comment.
ReplyDeleteNo time right now to address all of Litvak's inquiries, but as for whether I would say the same about Chassidim - I would, but am not. Just as a person may only make a racist joke if it is about his own race and self-deprecating, I only have the right to critique my own heritage, German-Jewry. :-)
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - you are wrong, there are reasons for the minhag. If you don't know something, don't assume that it doesn't exist.
ReplyDeleteכּדאי להזכּיר פּה מאמרו של רבּי עקיבא בּאבות פּרק ג, משנה יז, סיג לחכמה שתיקה.
litvak mareh mokom?
ReplyDeleteThere is an arichus (9 perokim, close to 300 pages) on wimpel in שרשי מנהג אשכנז חלק בּ in which many points are addressed.
ReplyDeleteFor those who want more info online and/or don't have the sefer, there is a good article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimpel
There is also a minhag here and there to make fun of minhagim.
ReplyDelete