Sunday, November 11, 2018

The Failings of the Jewish Educational System 2010-09-14


  1. I love it how adults complain about how kids don't think yet do everything to silence all thinking they don't like.

    True story this was one of my peers not a teacher
    Somehow we got into Mesillas Yesharim and I questioned some of the Ramchal's stuff and he replied with some very angry messages along the lines of "Where's your emunas chachamim?" (He also said that emunas chachamim makes the Ramchal correct) I ended that discussion quickly.

    1. Well let's consider why people don't think about these things what are the subconscious motivations?
      Becoming less frum or unaccepted theological conclusions we have
      "Regardless of how one comes to atheism, the subsequent isolation is painful. Many of Yosef’s friends speak frankly of depression, of feeling rootless, of their sense that they are hidden pariahs. They struggle with relationships with their parents and family. Some have told their parents of their beliefs. Some haven’t."
      YU commentator,The Atheist in the closet,April 2016
      Maybe more frum will work? Nope.
      It is important that religious educators constantly keep in mind that the greatest fear of any adolescent is not fitting in. When surrounded by peers who are cynical or rejecting of religion, it is increasingly difficult to convince them to commit to any overt signs of religious or spiritual practice outside the established norm. Feeling different or attacked on the basis of religious behavior is a risk factor for spiritual alienation in young adulthood.This dynamic was clear in one of the high schools participating in the RUACH project. When a small group of students returned from an intensive immersion program that helped them become more religiously connected than their peers, their re-entry to their school was complicated by the subtle message from their classmates that they seemed “over the top” in their clearly intensified spiritual prayer. Sadly, the reaction from their peers quickly taught these students to “tone down” any displays of their spiritual growth. Such activity was clearly viewed by peers as violating
      the social norm."
      Nourishing the Adolescent Soul: Insights & Recommendations to Support Religious and Spiritual Growth by Ruach a division of the Azrieli Graduate school of Jewish Education and Administration.
      Neither side is desirable so best logical choice would be to not think about such things.

  2. Anonymous, your story proves my point this is to some extent a case of כל הפוסל במומו פוסל they complain about the lack of thinking and yet perpetuate it.