Good Sichah Rabbi Bechofer, If you want to learn about the reasons historians see those numbers as reflective of certain meanings see https://www.jstor.org/stable/41541653?read-now=1&refreqid=excelsior%3A977ff7243888e057147410d5a3959a9d&seq=8#page_scan_tab_contents
Here's an example of what's probably mystical numbers relating to Moshe's lifetime. 40 represents an epoch Moshe was 80 when he went to the Yisraelim (Shemos 7:7) the makkos lasted a year(https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%94_%D7%A2%D7%93%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91_%D7%99) and then 40 years in the midbor = 121 years but the pasuk says he was 120!(Devarim 31:2) obviously at least one of these numbers must be to convey a message.
Where is a 1 used in the absence of a zero? Here the pasuk says eighty years and a hundred and 20 years and the Mishna says "The Din of the Egyptians:12 months."
What? The numbers are expressed as multiples of ten not of zero. I really don't understand what you're saying, can I have some more clarification please.
I get it so the pasuk number 80 is from a Jewish perspective which doesn't include a year zero. Thanks Rabbi Bechofer for clarifying. My being a computer person to celebrate the resolution here's 120 in binary:01111000
Good Sichah Rabbi Bechofer,
ReplyDeleteIf you want to learn about the reasons historians see those numbers as reflective of certain meanings see https://www.jstor.org/stable/41541653?read-now=1&refreqid=excelsior%3A977ff7243888e057147410d5a3959a9d&seq=8#page_scan_tab_contents
Here's an example of what's probably mystical numbers relating to Moshe's lifetime. 40 represents an epoch
ReplyDeleteMoshe was 80 when he went to the Yisraelim (Shemos 7:7) the makkos lasted a year(https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%94_%D7%A2%D7%93%D7%99%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%91_%D7%99) and then 40 years in the midbor = 121 years but the pasuk says he was 120!(Devarim 31:2) obviously at least one of these numbers must be to convey a message.
You're thinking like a Modern Westerner. The Jewish system is the ancient one. No zero.
ReplyDeleteIn which of these numbers is 1 a placeholder for zero? (The Mishna says twelve months which I summarized as 1 year)
Delete80 and 40? The text says ben shmonim, shmonim is the tens form of 8.
ReplyDeleteWhere exactly does it say 1 in the absence of zero?
ReplyDeleteWhere is a 1 used in the absence of a zero? Here the pasuk says eighty years and a hundred and 20 years and the Mishna says "The Din of the Egyptians:12 months."
ReplyDeleteIf there is no 0 then 80 and 40 overlap.
ReplyDeleteWhat? The numbers are expressed as multiples of ten not of zero. I really don't understand what you're saying, can I have some more clarification please.
ReplyDeleteWhen a child is born, from the Jewish perspective, he is 1. When he turns what we call 1, from the Jewish perspective he is 2, etc.
ReplyDeleteI get it so the pasuk number 80 is from a Jewish perspective which doesn't include a year zero. Thanks Rabbi Bechofer for clarifying.
ReplyDeleteMy being a computer person to celebrate the resolution here's 120 in binary:01111000